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  • White smoke and mods

    Hi!

    I really need your help and your experience guys.

    I have a ds3 thp 2011 with 60k km.

    At about 45k km the engine started to make white oil smoke at idle. Usually after idling for about 1 minute the white smoke starts and never ended until or I Rev higher or until I start to drive.
    I then removed the back pvc and capped it. (the one coming from the intake to the head. Closed on both sides.
    I left the other one stock.

    But the white smoke didn't stop. Actually it became more and more and more.
    Always and only after idling for about 30/60 secs. Then the white smoke starts and never stops until I Rev higher or go driving

    At 60k km the smoke became HUGE. The car became unusable.

    So I decided to rebuild the engine and did these mods:

    1) wossner pistons.
    2) replaced the turbo with a brand new but stock one
    3) ported head +1mm (and completely rebuilt the head)
    4) Full exhaust and removed the cat

    Started the engine but after about 400 miles the problem is still there! Same identical problem!

    At this point I am clueless! What could be the problem?

    Also, once I will fix the smoke problem I will install a gt25 turbo. How much power can the stock rods handle safely?

    Thanks!
    Last edited by ds3juice; 26-04-2016, 15:47.

  • #2
    Head Gasket Failure probably, does your coolant tank bubble? Is coolant mucky? Emulsification of sump oil?

    They are the easiest things to check at home and fastest,

    Just my 2p
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    • #3
      Broda's 2p are a good bet here. Did you have the head shaved to make it absolutely flat while you were rebuilding the head?
      Last edited by cyclone; 27-04-2016, 08:16.
      Originally posted by cyclone
      It is in the handbook. Satisfied.
      Originally posted by Broda
      I would rather teabag a bear trap

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Broda View Post
        Head Gasket Failure probably, does your coolant tank bubble? Is coolant mucky? Emulsification of sump oil?

        They are the easiest things to check at home and fastest,

        Just my 2p
        Thanks for the reply.

        Actually we replaced the head gasket with a metal multi layer one and the engine is brand new now.

        I just tested it revving at home and I want to correct something that I wrote before. Even when I Rev higher in neutral a lot of white smoke go out.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cyclone View Post
          Brody's 2p are a good bet here. Did you have the head shaved to make it absolutely flat while you were rebuilding the head?
          Yes we did a nice tuning job. We shop where I did it tuned a lot of cars. They have good knowledge and shaving perfectly the head have been done.

          I will try to record a video and upload it somwhere

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          • #6
            The thing is white smoke would normally be coolant.
            Originally posted by cyclone
            It is in the handbook. Satisfied.
            Originally posted by Broda
            I would rather teabag a bear trap

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cyclone View Post
              The thing is white smoke would normally be coolant.
              No no I think it's oil
              It's very dense and persist in the air and smell of burnt oil...

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              • #8
                Sorry but it's a head gasket... With the info given that's one of the only things it could be...

                A HGF can be water and oil mixing, it can be a mix of anything depending on where it's failed. Common mistake to think the head gasket is only combustion

                Also the new HG may not match your new head
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cyclone View Post
                  Brody's 2p are a good bet here. Did you have the head shaved to make it absolutely flat while you were rebuilding the head?
                  Who's Brody grrrrrrrrr
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Broda View Post
                    Sorry but it's a head gasket... With the info given that's one of the only things it could be...

                    A HGF can be water and oil mixing, it can be a mix of anything depending on where it's failed. Common mistake to think the head gasket is only combustion

                    Also the new HG may not match your new head
                    I will check that then

                    But the thing is that the engine makes the same identical smoke that it made before being rebuilt. And when we opened the engine to rebuild it the head gasket (stock one) was perfect...

                    Not sure what to think

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Broda View Post
                      Sorry but it's a head gasket... With the info given that's one of the only things it could be...

                      A HGF can be water and oil mixing, it can be a mix of anything depending on where it's failed. Common mistake to think the head gasket is only combustion

                      Also the new HG may not match your new head
                      Also the engine have just 400 miles...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ds3juice View Post
                        A Los the engine have just 400 miles...
                        English?
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                        • #13
                          You may have fixed the head gasket issue with a new Hg but it doesn't match your skim, not being funny but you have gone about this all ass about face, you didn't find the cause of the problem and increased the variables with no understanding of the issue... Now it could be anything...

                          You could have a cracked block or damaged cylinder head.

                          Have you done the tests I told you before?

                          If yes and still nothing check cylinder compression...

                          Broda Out
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Broda View Post
                            You may have fixed the head gasket issue with a new Hg but it doesn't match your skim, not being funny but you have gone about this all ass about face, you didn't find the cause of the problem and increased the variables with no understanding of the issue... Now it could be anything...

                            You could have a cracked block or damaged cylinder head.

                            Have you done the tests I told you before?

                            If yes and still nothing check cylinder compression...

                            Broda Out
                            Ouch

                            Now there are a lot of variables and I will have to go step by step. In case the head gasket or any water passage is gone I should have lower water level and/or emulsionated water with oil right?
                            So far the water level is absolutely stable and water looks like water still and no oil inside it for now
                            What other tests could I do?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Broda View Post
                              Who's Brody grrrrrrrrr
                              Brody was the rogue soldier who was turned to Islam in Homeland on HBO!
                              LA PETITE FUSEE / THE LITTLE ROCKET

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