Wheel dimensions/ offset/ PCD/ Spigots etc

[cyclone]

Chris 15mm is fine and spacers that thick should be hubcentric, as in have a lip the same diameter as original hub. Haven't seen spacers that act as spigots too. Not saying they don't exist just never seen any and would need to be special ordered or made? So still going to need to use spigots. As long as looking at all this might want think about 20mm spacer to push the wheels out total of 7mm for a better look.

[ZACK]

Haven't seen spacers that act as spigots too. Not saying they don't exist just never seen any and would need to be special ordered or made? So still going to need to use spigots.

Yeah they do exist, but as you said usually have to get them specially made. I know a guy who put Ford Focus Alloys on his 207 as winter wheels, The Focus CB is 63.4 which is obviously smaller than the Peugeots 65.1 CB so he had to get his custom made at a workshop. He had 20mm spacers made with an internal CB of 65.1 and then the outer part was slimmed down and reduced to 63.4 so it fitted the Focus alloys perfectly - without the need for spigots and all on one piece of aluminium. Cost him a fair few pennys though I think !

[Chris_Blue]

Thanks Zack and Cycles- got it bout the hubcentric lip i think. Shimm spacers dont have the same thing
Spigots needed too. Learning all the time.
My concern over spacing out more than needed to 20mm, is that does it not put more stress on the hub as its elongated by 40mm in effect?
Ex peuogot wheels so think wheel CB is 65.1

Have noticed a 4 inch aluminium weld into the back wheel space on one of the wheels. Wheel looks straight, and will get it checked at Kwik fit or somewhere
Could that be a reason not to use them? Hope not

[Chris_Blue]

Anyone one know for sure if a 15 offset on a 17" wheel with 40 (Or maybe 45 at a later stage) causes any issues on the DS3?
Am guessing the extra 10 mm don't cause no problem with the wheel arches, or shocks/ suspension brake calipers etc etc
Thanks in advance

[robbo51]

Will these fit?
Dezent Panik 17" Single Alloy Wheel (4x108 et15)

•4 x 108

• Offset: ET15

• Wheel Size: 7" x 17"

Need some to fit winter tyres to

[cyclone]

Will these fit?
Dezent Panik 17" Single Alloy Wheel (4x108 et15)

•4 x 108

• Offset: ET15

• Wheel Size: 7" x 17"

Need some to fit winter tyres to

Yes should fit just fine. The rim will sit 10mm further out than a set of Bellones. Will look better because of this.

[Chris_Blue]

They will fit- I have the same size. No problem
It has been suggested that the tracking will be slightly out cos of the increase in width, which may make the tyres wear uneven.
Havent noticed it too much on mine (I change wheels regular. so not altering GEO) but theyre only cheap tyres on that set so not fussed bout uneven wear

[cyclone]

They will fit- I have the same size. No problem
It has been suggested that the tracking will be slightly out cos of the increase in width, which may make the tyres wear uneven.
Havent noticed it too much on mine (I change wheels regular. so not altering GEO) but theyre only cheap tyres on that set so not fussed bout uneven wear

Whoever told you this need to sit down and think about how moving the wheel in or out along the axis of the axle affects your alignment. The alignment is not altered by a change in et of the rim. Let's look at each aspect of this. (lot of A words there )

First Camber.

The amount the wheel is tilted in or out. It is determined by the angle that the strut is attached to the car. You could push out or pull in the wheel any amount and it will not affect this angle. If you had a 5 foot spacer the cars ride height would be higher or lower but the angle would be the same.

Second Caster.

The amount the wheel is tilted forward or backwards. Again determined by the angle of the strut and will not change with any wheel offset change.

Third Toe

In or out. The the angle the wheels are pointed when you have the steering wheel straight ahead. Depending on the car they will be pointing either slightly towards or away from each other. Again moving the wheel in or out will not change this angle.

[Chris_Blue]

That's good- will go down and tell the Kwik fit bloke- probly wanted some money to do something
Wondered why the tyres didn't seem any more worn. although the profiles are 40s instead of 45s

Sent them good feedback online too

[cyclone]

Most likely wanted to sell you an alignment also.
TBH not really a bad idea when getting new tires. Being out a little can have a big effect on tire wear. All it takes is 1 good pothole to throw out your alignment and we all know how many of those are around!

[Chris_Blue]

All it takes is 1 good pothole to throw out your alignment and we all know how many of those are around!

Doubt theres many in Deutscheland- hundreds over here
Had a nice swerve yestday

[Gazski66]

Good informative read, still not 100% sure what it all means but what affect would a wheel with 35 offset have, i presume the wheel will stick out further if i understand correctly?

[cyclone]

A bigger offset number will push the outside edge of the wheel in and a lower number will push it out. Would need to know the width of the wheel to get the correct positioning of the wheel. Say the width of the wheel was the same as a bellone 7" with a 25 offset then the new wheel 7" wide with 35 offset would sit 10mm further in. So to put the wheel back in stock location would need a 10mm spacer between the wheel and the mount hub.

[ZACK]

Think this thread needs to be stickied ! Lots of useful wheel info on the 1st page for people new to it !

[Gazski66]

A bigger offset number will push the outside edge of the wheel in and a lower number will push it out. Would need to know the width of the wheel to get the correct positioning of the wheel. Say the width of the wheel was the same as a bellone 7" with a 25 offset then the new wheel 7" wide with 35 offset would sit 10mm further in. So to put the wheel back in stock location would need a 10mm spacer between the wheel and the mount hub.

Ah that makes sense, thanks cycles, need to be looking at ET 25 or even 20 to fit without a spacer