Rear ended

[Chris_Blue]

Hence my love of my dashcam!

Went out and bought a forward and reverse twin camera myself :-)
Spose I should get the wife one
Hope all ends well Richard

[Hyperkev]

Got to wait for Santa for mine , going to put it in my Royal Mail van through the day .

[Greaterix]

definitely the driver behind you who was at fault.

Do bare in mind that if you had hit the Royal Mail van, it would be your fault.

[RichardL]

definitely the driver behind you who was at fault.

Do bare in mind that if you had hit the Royal Mail van, it would be your fault.

I'd be at fault even though the RM driver was not only driving on the wrong side of the road but on the wrong side of a solid white line?

[Chris_Blue]

Drivers should always be in control and drive their vehicle in a safe and attentive way- that's why the person behind you may well be liable for the accident.

However- they may argue that you didn't take enough care pulling out of one carriageway into another, and you should have checked before pulling out, rather than start off then stop suddenly. Again, your response would be that your part of the carriageway should not be encroached by another (Royal Mail vehicle)

That's why the only winners in these situations are the legal representatives who will charge, or cost, the insurance compnay hefty fees. As always in life the responsibilty for the situation will be applied to each person- the trick is to identify how much each is responsible

My money would be on the driver who went in to you has the largest part of the blame

[RichardL]

That's the thing I guess, on the face of it it's a straightforward situation but when you consider the fact that the van was on the wrong side of the road and had actually overtaken the vehicle in the lane before getting to the corner it all becomes very very sticky.
As much as I'd like to have a go at Royal Mail for this I think it's best for me to keep them out of it unless my insurer decides to contact them.

Dashcam-wise I was actually considering buying a rear view camera too, my main concern is power though, I'm great with gadgets and repairing electronics but when it comes to cars I have no idea where to start. My forward facing camera gets its power from the 12v socket but I have no idea how I'd power a rear camera.

[Dangerousfish]

Dashcam-wise I was actually considering buying a rear view camera too, my main concern is power though, I'm great with gadgets and repairing electronics but when it comes to cars I have no idea where to start. My forward facing camera gets it's power from the 12v socket but I have no idea how I'd power a rear camera.

You could obtain power from one of the rear side-light but would involve splicing a cable.

Next best option would be to run a dedicated power cable for it to the back of the car. If you want to pick up some the next time you're in Maplin/browsing ebay, give me a shout and I'll lend a hand running it the next time I see you

[RichardL]

You could obtain power from one of the rear side-light but would involve splicing a cable.

Next best option would be to run a dedicated power cable for it to the back of the car. If you want to pick up some the next time you're in Maplin/browsing ebay, give me a shout and I'll lend a hand running it the next time I see you

Thanks! Doubt I'll have one any time before January payday though by which time I'm sure I would have forgotten the idea but I'll keep that all in mind!

[Chris_Blue]

My camera mounted at top of front windscreen has cameras facing forward and back, almost 180degrees each, so get good view all round. However with head restraints in the way, and a small DS3 back window, you don't get a good view. But it sure is better than nothing

[XanderCage13]

Hope you get it sorted out mate. Gutted dude, at least it wasn't you who hit someone

[Coupese]

However- they may argue that you didn't take enough care pulling out of one carriageway into another, and you should have checked before pulling out, rather than start off then stop suddenly. Again, your response would be that your part of the carriageway should not be encroached by another (Royal Mail vehicle)

I was involved in a similar low speed shunt accident 11 months ago.

In the video above:

The van is partially at fault as he overtook on a dual solid white line to overtake a moving vehicle.

You did not Give Way at a Give Way junction. The Highway Code does NOT state that you only have to giveway to traffic on the right only.

Highway Code Road Junction 172
"The approach to a junction may have a ‘Give Way’ sign or a triangle marked on the road. You MUST give way to traffic on the main road when emerging from a junction with broken white lines across the road.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10(1),16(1) & 25"

The car that struck your DS3 is partially to blame as she did not take due care and attention.

The accident I was involved in was silly minor at no more than 10mph with damaged bumpers and lights the result. One guy thought he would be clever and go for gold on an insurance claim and now is stuffed as all the insurances companies will not agree liability between their legal departments and it may well end up in court for a ruling on apportioning the blame.

Hope yours is sorted more easily

[RichardL]

It really is a sticky one isn't it?
If this were to happen again I'd probably approach it in exactly the same way. There's quite good visibility at that junction which is why it's a give way and not a stop. When I arrived I slowed and looked to the left, saw nothing leaving (or approaching on the wrong side of the road), looked to the right, saw nothing approaching so instead of reaching a complete stop I released the brake and started to accelerate. It's difficult to see from the video because it's further left than the video shows but that's the point the van moved to the right and I began to brake.
Besides not actually rolling out into the road I don't think I could have reacted to that situation any better. I spotted the van early enough to reach a stop before leaving the bus lane and entering the main carriageway, it's the girl behind me who both didn't leave enough space and didn't stop quick enough whether it be because of reaction time or mechanical wear.

[Coupese]

Its horrible as you feel you acted appropriately and drove taking all sensible precautions. Yet you can still be accused of being in the wrong against all common sense.

Where my shunt happened I turn at that junction every day, several times a day, for over 17 years and have done so in the 11 months since.
I watch other cars take the junction in the same manner as I always do, but due to one person not paying attention and causing a shunt I have to suffer. I have photos of the vehicle in the exact location and debris on the ground to prove the exact point of impact and vehicle positions. I've had 11 months of arguing statements and my insurance broker doing her nut as its so clear cut but getting no where. I hope you aren't with Aviva like my company was.

Rant off, hope you get sorted quickly and sensibly.

[RichardL]

I hope you aren't with Aviva like my company was.

Gulp.

[Sean]

All i read was rear ended. Think i came to the wrong thread...

Last time somebody rear ended you Richard you had a golfball on your forehead, i feel you got off lightly