Confused about forge induction kit

[Eagle]

I've spend a lot of time reviewing options for upgrading my intake on my ds3 thp.
The only kit currently available for the ds3 thp is the forge induction kit that a lot of people here have bought.
However I live in Cyprus and we have a long hot summer (average day temperatures of 38degrees / night temperatures 22-23 degrees). I am not sure if an open type filter in the engine bay will give me any bhp gains considering the higher temperatures in my county ? I am not interested about induction sound am interested about performance. I have also contacted forge but their reply wasn't very clear ..they replied me with the following email:
"Thank you for the enquiry.

We have not had the opportunity to test under the hot climate conditions you live in, but it is probably a fair observation to make that the open cone type filters are more prone to heat soak and you would not see the benefits of the free flow open cone filter that we see in central, western and north western Europe.
Regular maintenance will ensure the filter will meet basic function requirements in dry, dusty conditions."

I don't know if buying the forge intake will give me any gains ? (its a larger air filter compared to panel /factory filter..on the other hand I think it will absorb a lot of engine high temperatures). ? On the other hand performance panel filters are inside the airbox so they don't absorb a lot of hot air from the engine bay but they are known for not giving any performance gains.

(I have already done an ecu remanp/ full exhaust and a front mount intercooler)

[Czar]

Eagle, I can understand your looking to gain as much HP from each of your chosen performance upgrades, you've discussed the air filtration with me through the forum PM's, given the climate where you live, as I've mentioned to you before, your best bet is a simple panel filter, such as the one I pointed you towards, you are NOT going to gain much in the respect of additional measured HP, your trying too hard, your looking for gain which is not there.

Here's another idea what I what consider in your position, adapt the stock factory air box, and install the cone filter in the factory stock air box. !!

[Chris_Blue]

Some of those utube shorts show the real perfromance increase of most induction kits

Pretty much negligible

However, they look and sound nice. Get a sports cat for better performance

[Superfly Guy]

Unless you have done so already, have your car remapped, for me (with the exception of the walnut blast) it has been the only power mod that has made a noticeable realworld difference.
Map - Gave me loads more BHP
Walnut blast - Recovered plenty of lost BHP
Exhaust - Hardly noticeable gains but a lovely sound.

[Eagle]

I ve read conflicting views about open type filters on turbo engines saying that it does not matter because when the car is running at around 55mph the cold air will coming in will push the hot air
downward and will escape from under the car...also that it doesnot matter
because the intercooler will cool the hot air before going into the engine
As i mention above i have already done ECU remap and Decat full exhaust

[Czar]

I ve read conflicting views about open type filters on turbo engines saying that it does not matter because when the car is running at around 55mph the cold air will coming in will push the hot air
downward and will escape from under the car...also that it doesnot matter
because the intercooler will cool the hot air before going into the engine
As i mention above i have already done ECU remap and Decat full exhaust

You've pretty much argued with yourself, you already have the intercooler fitted, nobody drives at continuous speeds to facilitate the effects of frontal air pressure necessary to produce enough airflow to warrant the differential cost and global misconception between open and closed air filtration, all you need to do, is stop reading so much conflicting misguided advice, whilst trying to convince yourself that advertised gains of 5-6 hp from open cones, and 2-3 hp from closed filtration systems justify the differential costs, those advertised gains are NOT real world figures or indeed gains, you will always see dyne (rolling road) graph printouts showing any potential gains at peak RPM. do you drive your car at peak RPM (4,500-5,500 RPM) where most of the plotted gains take place, all the time. !!

[Superfly Guy]

those advertised gains are NOT real world figures or indeed gains, you will always see dyne (rolling road) graph printouts showing any potential gains at peak RPM. do you drive your car at peak RPM (4,500-5,500 RPM) where most of the plotted gains take place, all the time. !!

Very relevant point and as i mentioned on the 'intercooler' thread, the power of advertising combined with rumour, hearsay and a dash of fanboyism.

I spose the reason to change a component from stock vary.

Performance gain - Tuning
Long term economics - Brakes
Aesthetics - Spoiler
Willy waving pimping - Wheels

So whether something is worth the money all depends on what your aim is and whether or not the 'mod' achieves that, however you aint getting noticeable performance increases by changing the air filter on a road going THP.

[Dangerousfish]

I ve read conflicting views about open type filters on turbo engines saying that it does not matter because when the car is running at around 55mph the cold air will coming in will push the hot air
downward and will escape from under the car...also that it doesnot matter
because the intercooler will cool the hot air before going into the engine
As i mention above i have already done ECU remap and Decat full exhaust

It seems as though you've already made up your mind and I doubt we'll convince you otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[Eagle]

It seems as though you've already made up your mind and I doubt we'll convince you otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Thank you mr psychologist

[Dangerousfish]

Thank you mr psychologist

I'm not a psychologist, just another car fan guilty of the same inherent fault that some of us possess.

Czar knows what he's talking about and as it seem's as though you've already ignored the advice he's offered you privately. I posted about confirmation bias so you might better understand that it's sometimes worth listening to what people say rather than assuming you know best and re-framing people's suggestions in a manner that suits your expectations..