Latest catch can empty on my THP 155

[Chris_Blue]

Dsport THP 155 contents of catch can for the last 4400 miles. Emptied today 5th February 2015.

Bear in mind that when it was last emptied on 4th November 2014 there was nothing in it

http://youtu.be/PeRdjBz0xPo

However, have had a catch can installed for a fair while, and the inlet valves still had to be done November 2014, at just under 19k miles. Makes you wonder if its worth the hassle. Inlet valves still get carbonned up.

[Czar]

Dsport THP 155 contents of catch can for the last 4400 miles. Emptied today 5th February 2015.

Bear in mind that when it was last emptied on 4th November 2014 there was nothing in it

http://youtu.be/PeRdjBz0xPo

However, have had a catch can installed for a fair while, and the inlet valves still had to be done November 2014, at just under 19k miles. Makes you winder if its worth the hassle. Inlet valves still get carbonned up.

The inlet valves will always suffer from carbon deposit, all an oil catch can does, is reduce the issue, if and its a Big IF, your chosen oil catch can, is fitted with a filtration capture medium, that is serviceable too.

Remember, oil catch cans are tiny self producing condensing vessels, meaning they sweat, and therefore produce and capture their own water, and that's exactly what you see in Chris's video.

[Chris_Blue]

Ah- but the top stuff is not water. Renconstituted oil. Catch can don't generate that.
Its a decent can with breather pipe etc etc

WMI it is then :star:

[Czar]

Ah- but the top stuff is not water. Renconstituted oil. Catch can don't generate that.
Its a decent can with breather pipe etc etc

WMI it is then :star:

LMAO, oil floats on water, and what is in you're can is emulsified, that's when water mixes with oil, or in your case, a very tiny insignificant amount, yes you're chosen oil catch can does generate its own water vapour (droplets) from condensing, you can't stop it during the winter months, you've got hot gaseous vapour entering a cool or cold oil catch can, it's sweats, and water vapour forms (water droplets) same as when you take a cold beer out the fridge on a hot day, you get water droplets form on the outside of the can/bottle, same thing happens to you're chosen can, only the reverse.

[Chris_Blue]

Ha! Have worked on air conditioning units, so understand condensing principles

[Czar]

Ha! Have worked on air conditioning units, so understand condensing principles

Good, so why don't you understand the basic principal of condensing (sweating) of you're chosen oil catch can, it's not rocket science.

[Chris_Blue]

^ I do. My earlier point was that there was oil in the catch can. The water is irrelevant
But what is the point of catching that oil, (Quite a lot of it) it if the inlet valves still get soiled at an early mileage, was my thought process

[Czar]

^ I do. My earlier point was that there was oil in the catch can. The water is irrelevant
But what is the point of catching that oil, (Quite a lot of it) it if the inlet valves still get soiled at an early mileage, was my thought process

Let's see if I can explain, even though you're chosen oil catch can collects a very tiny insignificant amount of actual oil, why is this so ? Any oil catch can that only offers a change in direction of the gaseous vapour entering and exiting, will at the very best only capture 35% of the suspended oil particles, you have to divert, slow down or intefere with the gaseous vapour long enough, to promote the suspended oil particles to form into droplets and fall out of suspension.

A mere change in entering and exiting direction of the gaseous vapour is not enough, these are just empty cans, with no diverter plates to further slow down the gaseous vapour, to do a really good job of capturing suspended oil particles, you must pass the gaseous vapour through a filtration medium, and this needs to be serviceable, in 2009 I designed one specific for the BMW MINI, but due to cost did not take off, people considered it not cost effective, yet would be happy spending upto £100 on an empty can, and look for that miraculous £20 can of at the time sea foam treatment, which I explained many times over, would not work at removing the carbon deposit, yet people still believed it would, and now I sit back, and say I told you so, long ago, would they listen, no they wouldn't at first, but their lights have slowly come on, and they now understand.

[FLP]

So Czar, are you saying a normal catch can like this isn't worth the hassle/money? I'm asking because I'm planning on installing one in the next couple of months...

[Czar]

So Czar, are you saying a normal catch can like this isn't worth the hassle/money? I'm asking because I'm planning on installing one in the next couple of months...

You have to decide for yourself whether catching at best 35% of suspended oil particles is worth you're time, effort and money, all I do is offer you the relative guidance facts, the rest is entirely you're choice.

[FLP]

OK, thx! I think I'm going for it. Better (max) 35% than nothing...

[lfcrule1972]

Hi Czar - out of interest what was the expected RRP of the catch can you designed for the BMW Mini ?

[monkeynuts]

Cummon Guys Why is it we buy a car which is great and then start adding extra colostomy bags to catch the goop that the engine cannot get rid of

Is it really worth all the aggro ?and you still have a ticking time bomb under your bonnet can the common Guy/Girl be bothered to do this ?? doubt it

What generation THP are we on since 2010? the car has been through a few face lifts but has that filtered down to the power unit ?

[Czar]

OK, thx! I think I'm going for it. Better (max) 35% than nothing...

Exactly.

Hi Czar - out of interest what was the expected RRP of the catch can you designed for the BMW Mini ?

Not expected, it was £299.00

Cummon Guys Why is it we buy a car which is great and then start adding extra colostomy bags to catch the goop that the engine cannot get rid of

Is it really worth all the aggro ?and you still have a ticking time bomb under your bonnet can the common Guy/Girl be bothered to do this ?? doubt it

What generation THP are we on since 2010? the car has been through a few face lifts but has that filtered down to the power unit ?

It really is worth time, effort and money, if you install the correct OCC

[Chris_Blue]

If seen by my video in OP is only 35% of crud, theres a fair bit still getting thru
I'd have a redesigned can off you for £299 Czar- so long as you have all the technical specifications obviously
Would yours have stopped, say, %90

I'll have one LOL.

For cleaning the inlet valves, which is a major part of the problem, theres always WMI