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[Dangerousfish]

BHP figures mean nothing if you can't transmit the power to the road. You're tyres are 10mm narrower than the Racings therefore less contact area, therefore less traction. You're brakes & suspension are also not the same spec as the Racings, therefore on a twisty road or track the Racing will leave the THP behind even if it has 3 BHP more

Gonna have to argue with this.

You're saying that 3bhp difference isn't going to make a difference but the same could be said about 20mm's of rubber.. After only a few mods you can easily get the THP past the BHP/Torque figures of the racing and simply uprate the brakes/suspension and still be under the asking price for the R including insurance costs.

I'm not slagging off DS3R's as they're fantastic machines and the options available such as the carbon trim and rim's that aren't available on the other models make it looks superb.

[Wickedredc2]

Nice

haha you know im joking lol

[Dangerousfish]

Gotta ask too Outline.. How'd you get it so spangly?! o.0

[DSL3NNY]

HAHA lol I wuold rape you all in a race even if you have more of this and that i would leave you in my dust am kicking out 200+ nw and am working on constantly improving my thp i would love to see if a racing would still be a challenge considering i raced a moded corsa vxr yes there wasnt much diffrence in the striaght but id beat the shit out of it in the corners end of the day fish is right i paid 15,000 for mine i have spent just under 2,000 and have more power than a racing cheers easy

[Wickedredc2]

HAHA lol I wuold rape you all in a race even if you have more of this and that i would leave you in my dust am kicking out 200+ nw and am working on constantly improving my thp i would love to see if a racing would still be a challenge considering i raced a moded corsa vxr yes there wasnt much diffrence in the striaght but id beat the shit out of it in the corners end of the day fish is right i paid 15,000 for mine i have spent just under 2,000 and have more power than a racing cheers easy

are you on drugs

[Arlow]

Gonna have to argue with this.

You're saying that 3bhp difference isn't going to make a difference but the same could be said about 20mm's of rubber.. After only a few mods you can easily get the THP past the BHP/Torque figures of the racing and simply uprate the brakes/suspension and still be under the asking price for the R including insurance costs.

I'm not slagging off DS3R's as they're fantastic machines and the options available such as the carbon trim and rim's that aren't available on the other models make it looks superb.

I'd have to disagree with your point about insurance. I'm sure if you declared the modifications carried out to a THP to get it anywhere near Racing spec for power, suspension etc. the insurance company would charge you more than if you insured a Racing with them.

If the 2 cars both produced the same BHP then the car with the extra 20mm of rubber would have better traction and therefore be quicker off the line than the other one.

Try claiming on your warranty when you have blown up your modified car or your insurance when you crash your undeclared modified car.

[Dangerousfish]

I'd have to disagree with your point about insurance. I'm sure if you declared the modifications carried out to a THP to get it anywhere near Racing spec for power, suspension etc. the insurance company would charge you more than if you insured a Racing with them.

If the 2 cars both produced the same BHP then the car with the extra 20mm of rubber would have better traction and therefore be quicker off the line than the other one.

Try claiming on your warranty when you have blown up your modified car or your insurance when you crash your undeclared modified car.

My mods are declared. Nobody will touch me for under 4/5k on the DS3R.

Full forge kit + remap + a decent induction and you can easily put out 210/220BHP not to mention the higher torque figures.. All that is going to cost you a maximum of 2/3k.

[dave_beast]

Same, not slagging off the R's, amazing bit of kit, but for £6k more?!

Hmm, if it was £2-£3k more then maybe I would of bought one, but for that amount of extra money I could buy some nice 18" OZ rims, racing coilovers, carbon ceramic brakes and the carbon bits off that Musketier Tiburon 222 kit and still have spare change.

[Arlow]

Same, not slagging off the R's, amazing bit of kit, but for £6k more?!

Hmm, if it was £2-£3k more then maybe I would of bought one, but for that amount of extra money I could buy some nice 18" OZ rims, racing coilovers, carbon ceramic brakes and the carbon bits off that Musketier Tiburon 222 kit and still have spare change.

Where does the 6k figure come from? If you spec a DSport with the same options that the Racing has as standard then that figure is reduced to less than 5k. The carbon bits on the Musketier are carbon look not genuine carbon fibre, again a lot cheaper and from the pictures on their website nastier looking.

If I wanted a KitKat I wouldn't buy 4 wafer biscuits and a bar of chocolate to melt over the wafers, I buy a KitKat

[dave_beast]

Where does the 6k figure come from? If you spec a DSport with the same options that the Racing has as standard then that figure is reduced to less than 5k. The carbon bits on the Musketier are carbon look not genuine carbon fibre, again a lot cheaper and from the pictures on their website nastier looking.

Ok 5k then, but 5k buys a lot of racing kit, scratch the Musketier carbon "effect" kit, it doesn't do anything, just like the real carbon on the DS3r. Plus, i'll have enough spare change for a rollcage, so after pulling away from you with my superior torque output, when I let you pass, out of pity, when you crash into me you won't squash me!

If I wanted a KitKat I wouldn't buy 4 wafer biscuits and a bar of chocolate to melt over the wafers, I buy a KitKat

If I wanted to buy a £23k "racing" car I wouldn't buy a DS3r

[Arlow]

If I wanted to buy a £23k "racing" car I wouldn't buy a DS3r

OK what would you buy for £23k? off the shelf so to speak not something that you would have to modify

[dave_beast]

Focus RS, can be had with discount for around 23k

[Arlow]

Focus RS, can be had with discount for around 23k

1. It's a Focus !!!
2. With discount!!!

[dave_beast]

3. It's 300bhp

[Dangerousfish]

1. It's a Focus !!!
2. With discount!!!

Implying you didn't get any freebies with the DS3R..

Look, we're not slagging off the DS3R simply saying that after spending the same amount of money on a THP you'd have a car much faster than the DS3R. Surely you must agree on that?

The kit-kat theory is a silly one though. If there was a better tasting 4 wafer chocolate biscuit on offer that was 10p cheaper of course I'd buy that..