EU Referendum

[Superfly Guy]

Various but normally that they will face persecution from various government and non governmental groups in their own country.

[TomTom]

I beg to differ. If it wasn't such a key issue to a lot of people why is it discussed so fervently?

Oh it's important in that aspect...

But it doesn't actually effect them.. plenty more issues that directly effect everyone.

[Dave]

The EU won't stop trading with us because of our non membership, examples - we are the largest importer of German Cars, without us trading with them the companies would see huge negative growth ; VW Group may have gone bust, why would they suddenly cut off their largest market just because we aren't a member of the EU? Also how have the Asian Tigers managed to be the fastest growing economies with the largest percentage of exports in the world without the EU along with many other countries.

[JEZDS3]

In an ideal world everyone would just be nice to one another and wars would not happen.........we just don`t live in an ideal world,there is always power,greed and corruption to get in the way!

[Superfly Guy]

woulhere is always power,greed and corruption to get in the way!

And human nature, we would still be living in Ethiopia if it was for our drive to be better.

[JEZDS3]

True...many factors to F**K things up!

[Superfly Guy]

I think we are a remarkable species,. We have gone from walking out of Africa to leaving our planet in only 50,000 years, an astonishingl achievement.

[Broda]

And human nature, we would still be living in Ethiopia if it was for our drive to be better.

Machiavelli, always an interesting read on human nature along with the other Realists or NeoRealists :star:

Also well said Dave.

[Dangerousfish]

Thoughts on the debate last night? I'm just getting around to watching it now.

Don't forget to vote tomorrow

[Superfly Guy]

Not wTchex any of them, I've already voted so it's irrelevant to me now.

[JEZDS3]

I`ll be voting tomorrow,don`t you worry about that! No vote,is a wasted vote,so I will be walking around to my local polling station.

[Chris_Blue]

Better together- on your own is tough

[Superfly Guy]

Business is business Chris, The EU and more importantly the companies based their need us as a consumer. My concern is the negative effect UKIP are having on the leave campaign.

[Chris_Blue]

We need the European market, more than they need our goods. Figures are there.

UKIP? LOL.

[Superfly Guy]

We need the European market, more than they need our goods. Figures are there.

UKIP? LOL.

Chris, the UK is the financial capital of Europe, it is also a HUGE commercial market for Europe. We manufacture and sell very little in the commercial sense to Europe but we do buy a phenomenal amount from them.

Without the UK as a market to trade in, a significant number of European (predominantly German) companies will see massive drops in revenue. Have a read of the business and trade publications, the Germans have said as much.

Just have a look at what has happened to VW with just a small drop in sales in the UK, they cant give away their cars at the moment, imagine if trade tariffs increased the prices, they would need to sell at a loss (they are already selling many models at cost price).